Problem with regenerated managers

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andrew11
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Problem with regenerated managers

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Hi,

I'm playing CM 99/00 but I've heard this is a problem in 01/02 as well so i'm hoping that if there is a solution it will apply to 99/00 as well. The problem is regenerated managers, in other words managers who were once regenerated players. They all start using a tactic which is a 5-3-2 with the two forwards having a long arrow back to the half-way line. This is obviously a very defensive formation which doesn't yield many goals. Problem is that I'm now in the year 2018 and every other club is using it which is kind of spoiling the game as I'm the only one winning lots of games as all the other clubs are drawing games 0-0 most of the time. This is the reason simulated playthroughs 100 years in the future gives odd results because everyone is drawing the vast majority of games.

Does anyone know a way to solve this please or have I just reached the breaking point of the game?
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Think this is more to do with regenerated players having insanely high positioning hence the goals drying up.
There is a patcher for this on 01/02 but not 99/00 as far as I'm aware....? It's my favourite game out the lot would be keen to know if there was a way around it too.
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Tomck wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:26 am Think this is more to do with regenerated players having insanely high positioning hence the goals drying up.
There is a patcher for this on 01/02 but not 99/00 as far as I'm aware....? It's my favourite game out the lot would be keen to know if there was a way around it too.
No it's definitely the tactic as every single team in the game is using it I noticed some of the teams starting to use it about 4 or 5 years before and they would usually get relegated and I would beat them about 5-0. Then the tactic spreads like a virus and more and more adopt the same tactic including those managers that were young managers at the start of the game. I think there might be a way around it which would involve preventing the managers retiring so they continue to manage. If the editor was used to change the age at the start of the game to make all their ages 2 years old then they wouldn't retire for about 60 years. That would be a time consuming thing to do though unless there is a way to automatically change all of the ages with one command.
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Somebody else posted similar a while ago abour AI tactics on another version of CM3.
As it is not known to happen on 0102 I don't think this topic actually belongs here, though.
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Alan_v2 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:50 pm Somebody else posted similar a while ago abour AI tactics on another version of CM3.
As it is not known to happen on 0102 I don't think this topic actually belongs here, though.
I think it is though as I've watched a couple of 01/02 videos where they simulate far into the future and it happens. Most of them they don't go into the tactics to look but you can see that the leagues are always won with half the number of points as they usually are. One video he did go into the tactics and it was happening.
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I remember making the same observation when I posted a thread in the ancient forum (a glimpse "30 years in the future"). After some years, there were almost no other tactics used by the AI than an ultra defensive 5-3-2 and an attacking 4-4-3. But it happened even with starting managers, not only rookies. I had loaded every league. But then goals weren't drying up probably because I was playing a Tapanified 01/02 with adjusted regens (positioning wasn't a problem as it was tuned down), so it may be two different problems.

As far I can remember, the problem with the AI choosing only between 2 tactics happened each time I played a long career with every league loaded. But when I loaded only one league, the AI managers were sticking to their favorite formation.
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